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i fought for all of us struggling to keep up with the rising cost of living. i'm evan low, and i approve this message for all of our shared values. just $2 per tablet at rex md.com elliott spitzer blazed a trail that had him in spitting distance of the white house right up until the moment he set himself on fire and crusading governor by day, wanted desperately, i think, to be present in the united states client number nine by night skye who was a crusader against human sex trafficking is actually a customer here's how the saga of eliot spitzer really went down >> this was a turning point in american government, united states of scandal with jake tapper. sunday, a nine on cnn and welcome to the lead. i'm kaitlan collins in for jake tapper on this friday ahead, this hour, we're protect reporting. that is first here on cnn as we are now hearing from multiple sources telling cnn about what could be a
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another spy balloon found off the coast of the united states. plus star players taking the court, the nba's lebron james in college basketball standout, caitlin clark, their chance to make history by doing what they do best the sports legend himself, bob costas, will be here to talk about it. but first, leading this hour, a major announcement from president biden today, who renewed his call for an immediate ceasefire between israel and hamas for at least his six weeks in gaza. their goal to get more hostages released from hamas and get more aid into gaza. the president said the us plans to airdrop that desperately needed food and supplies into the war-ravaged area. here he was at the white house, sitting next to the italian prime minister, just a few moments ago. >> aid flowing to gaza is nowhere nearly enough now it's nowhere nearly enough. >> innocent lives >> around the line and children's lives are on the line. we won't stand by and
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let until we get more aid in, i won't standby. we won't let up and we're not going to pull out pull out every stop we can get more assistance in that announcement from president biden comes at the end of the week we're horrors of war were on full display yesterday. we saw what happened in gaza. just pure chaos when desperation turned deadly as trucks that were carrying much needed aid or swarmed by hundreds of starving people. as we're still working to confirm all of the grim details, what we do know is that israeli forces open fire, arguing that their soldiers needed to protect themselves reports from gaza on the ground say that that sparked the trucks speed off and then crushing people in the crowd as they did so leading to more than 100 people killed, hundreds more injured cnn, i should note, cannot independently verify those numbers at this time but we did spend weeks working to reveal the facts of an earlier tragic
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moment. cnn's jomana karadsheh and a team of cnn journalist in unprecedented detail documented one attack that killed more than half. the members of one single family. i do want to warn you before you see this report that it contains disturbing video depicting dead body phase >> every patient here has a harrowing account of survival but it is the story of this one young woman that as you'll see, would become key to uncovering and atrocity that until today had been hidden in the dark >> they're all gone. i have no one >> left, 18 year-old druber of the juba told us she offered few clues as to what had happened to her and her family but a week later, a cameraman working for cnn in gaza was out filming as he's done every day for months. he was one of the
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first to arrive in this area just after israeli forces had withdrawn it was on that day, january 14, when he stumbled upon the scene of a horrific incident? first, we had no idea this was connected to roba until they start pulling documents from the rubble. its does his grim routine of trying to identify the dead. ben, the startling discovery later that day, cnn producer, i've used cell man screens the footage and sees roombas id this is where she was critically injured and the bodies are the remains of her family tiny corpses carried on blankets and in the corner, a woman sits covered in flies in her decomposing arms. a young man but we still didn't really know what had happened here. >> it would be really helpful, especially if we could go
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through the satellite images >> this grisly discovery was the start of a weeks-long cnn investigation we tracked down seven survivors, gathered video satellite imagery, israeli military pressure for leases. >> we >> verified social media content and spoke with ballistic and forensic experts, allowing us to piece together the events of a bloody night of death and h4, amid intense and indiscriminate israeli military fire that left civilians dead we started by asking the idf about the incident, giving them pictures, and exact coordinates. the military said their troops had come under fire from that location on january 4, and they responded with a precise strike to remove an imminent threat in can't confirm if the bodies are linked to that strike. our investigation raises serious questions about the idf's actions that day. this is where it all unfolded. there's a wider area of salaheddin street
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before the war, it was an industrial zone, but israel designated salaheddine the evacuation corridor out of northern gaza. business owners allowed hundreds of displaced people to stay in these warehouses suddenly in early january, war arrived on their doorstep. eyewitnesses say the warehouses on both sides of the road. we recreated in this 3d model, we're repeatedly struck from the ground and air families sheltering in the warehouses on the left broke holes through back walls escaping into the farmlands for the warehouse on the right, there was no escape for most. they were surrounded. they say the israeli shot at anyone who tried to walk out, something. the idf denies we tracked down roba's mother and three siblings, separated from her during the attack. they confirmed that among the bodies, our camera man filmed were five of ruba siblings, the youngest among them was a zain. he was ten, and ali 13 what
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likely killed most of them was the shockwave from a massive 2000 pound bomb, according to forensic pathologists and weapons experts who examined are footage and satellite imagery. >> the >> blast shockwave is so powerful that it can rupture the lungs leaving victims to drown in their own blood what the family didn't know was that roba was still alive, bleeding for four long days among the dead after our january 7 interview with trying to find her again lost in the chaos of overwhelmed hospitals after weeks of searching, we found her miles away and rafat risk seeking treatment with the israelis were outside shooting and started firing bombs. we were all injured and fell to the ground with the robot desperate for help. and her little brother, ali fighting for his life for days. israeli forces were right outside
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satellite images from january 5, one day after the attack shot idf vehicles by the warehouse and freshly bulldozed ground is closest 70 meters from where the siblings lay oh, my family members who are still alive left a relative a nice day mckend, they started bulldozing the place and dumped it on top of the dead people. my siblings she and her relative felt they had to get out of this shelter, turned morgue. they decided to make a daring escape and were questioned by soldiers about links to hamas before making it to the relative safety of a local hospital we can't confirm these really military's claim that their troops came under fire. and yet survivors, we spoke to tell us there were no militants in the warehouses. some witnesses say they heard what they called resistance fire. and local journalists that day reported clashes in the area cnn found that these really military has separately alleged there were hamas weapons facilities nearby, but
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never linked them to the warehouse where the abu jibbas sheltered, which we've highlighted here on this idea of map however it began, there is no doubt these really military used for russia's firepower. the size of the bomb bytes nature, indiscriminate, and survivors say they were not warned to leave by the military as it claims, it always tries to do in response to extensive questions from cnn, the idf claimed it told civilians to leave in the days before the deadly incident, but provided no evidence when asked we found the first time the military publicly said this part of gaza was no longer a safe evacuation route came in this post on x at 11:28 a.m. on january 4th, hours after the attack, i've seen them at any level, >> they knew we were civilians. there. drone saw everything. we had big white floor plugs up. they said it's a safe area. the south is safe. we came to the south for nothing they bombed
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us and killed are children in the south. >> the events of january day on the small window into the vast undocumented suffering that these really military is inflicted on civilians in gaza with tens of thousands already killed >> leaving so many like the >> abu jibba family, grieving traumatized with no recourse to justice accountability to shift the died in front of me. i couldn't do anything, but we would love to be silly and play together. >> you get there. i mean, now those memories >> are gone. >> jomana karadsheh, cnn, london >> and our thanks to jomana and her entire team for that deep investigative report in response to that report, i should note that the idf's lieutenant colonel peter lerner told cnn in part in a statement, quote, when we are going after hamas, after hamas is leadership, and when they are hiding in the civilian areas, there are civilian consequences. we also heard from a spokesperson for the united nations secretary
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general calling for a full investigation into what was reported i want to turn now to eylon levy, a spokesperson for the israeli government, who joins me here in studio. it's great to have you here. and good to be here in new york just first on that that report from jomana, i know we have an idea, but if israel is dropping in 2000 pound bomb wire civilian saying they weren't warned about that. >> it is desperately sudden. it points to the inhumanity of the hamas human shields strike carter g, that hamas deliberately embeds its fighters within civilian areas because it knows that either at gains immunity for its fighters or civilians will be hurt and hamas wants civilians to be heard because it's only strategy for trying to survive this war is to generate sympathy and international pressure on israel to stop now what we heard from the israeli military here is that our forces came under direct attack from that facility. now have soldiers are coming under attack. clearly, there is no time to give a warning for people to evacuate, having already said that the militants, terrorists were operating in the area. if
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soldiers come under immediate fire, they do have a right to strike back. and that is why we call on on civilians to get out of places where hamas is trying to use them as human shields. so that hamas cannot do that any longer if israel knows that there are civilians there in the survivors were saying that there were drones that they had major white flags. i mean, doesn't that make israel reconsider dropping a 2000 pound bomb? that kills half the members of an entire family, the army, when of course, consider whatever specific munitions are necessary for a precept specific operation. and i can't comment on operational matters because i'm not a military spokesman, but we think it is deeply tragic, deeply tragic. the war that hamas has brought on the people of gaza by deciding to declare this needless war on october 7, with a 10-7 attacks and deliberately fighting from inside civilian areas. and hamas does not, because it knows how it is manipulating international public opinion. it knows that if it hides under civilian areas and keeps moving widths, civilians as they evacuate to safer zones. it deliberately keeps them in danger us every civilian
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casualty is a tragedy and for hamas, it is a strategy. and yes, it's a strategy we're trying to thwart >> hamas does do that. and obviously we're knows they're a terrorist group. we saw what they did on october 7, but i think people, it also raises questions about the burden on the israeli government and tangibility when there are civilians, there. but i want to ask you about the announcement that we got from the white house today, president biden saying that the united states is going to orchestrate airdrops of aid into gaza. does israel really think that that's the solution to the humanitarian crisis that it's to the point where you've to airdrop aid into gaza. sure. >> if i could just comment on what we said before israel of course, trying to uphold international law, but it's trying to do it in conditions where no army in history has ever had to deal with a terrorist group so deeply embedded within civilian areas, and that poses challenges that no military in the world has had to deal with an israel is having to innovate new ways to try to mitigate civilian people, understand that, but then it's also really difficult to watch your report where someone lost half the members of their family, members of this. it's heartbreaking. it is
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tranches. they got no warning. >> it is tragic that hamas declared this warrant is fighting this war from inside civilian areas. we didn't want this war. we didn't start this war. we didn't expect this war. we're fighting this war because hamas retreated with 253 hostages and told us it wants to do it again. again and again, and it will unless it is stopped. and so we understand, we have to now, as for the specific question of humanitarian aid, we want to see as much humanitarian aid get into gaza to the people who needed while making sure that hamas cannot steal it. now that's why we've done on the one hand expanded capacity at the israeli crossings. there is now more more than double the excess capacity at israel's crossings to get more aid in as we speak right now, there are 300 trucks worth of humanitarian aid sitting on the gazan side of the kerem shalom crossing, waiting for the un to pick it up and distributed the aid is getting in the problem is that the un is struggling to distribute that aid at the pace that israel is facilitating its entry into gaza.
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>> but there's also a lot of aid on the other side of the border where this was posted by the former the former humanitarian coordinator for the united nations, who is now working for the norwegian group here. and he was saying that that is a that cannot get in. but i wanted to i wanna get to a generally what how much is getting it. but on the fact that the us is now orchestrating air drops to go into that, is that really the solution israel thinks is the way to get out of this the way to help feed these storing people in gaza. >> well, there were two questions. one is the question of aid getting into the gaza strip, and there is enough capacity at israel's crossings to get in as much aid as the international community is something really there's not a no, but then there's a question of how aid is being distributed inside gaza talking about air drops into areas that are difficult to reach because they are active war zones. because hamas is still fighting in the northern gaza strip. and because these are dangerous areas, and we've saw what happened just the other day with those horrific scenes of the fourth convoy of the week trying to take aid into northern gaza and being mobbed
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by desperate civilians who then got killed built in a stampede. so one option is to airdrop aid and there was a successful pilot this week in cooperation with i believe jordan, egypt, the uae, france, and the united states to airdrop aid into gaza. and we're looking into other ways to deliver aid into northern gaza and make sure again it gets to civilians who need it while making sure how much easier, safer, easier way to do this than just simply airdropping, get anything. the reason you saw that chaotic incident is people lauren rushing these trucks because they're starving. i mean, it's desperation in its fullest extent that you're watching and we hear from the idf saying, well, our forces felt that they were endangered and that's why they fired upon the crowd after firing those warning shots. that's what the idf said. they fired when people began to rush towards the russian soldiers because they have food and they're starving. well, i mean, why they were rushing and that the situation actually is not good and there's not enough aid getting in. >> the situation is definitely not good. we don't downplay that hamas has brought tragedy and disaster on the people of
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gaza by declaring this war. now, it's a unique challenge to work out how you distribute aid in an active war zone, where we know that the terrorist organization hamas, is hijacking aid, that the un agencies that are supposed to distribute aid has been covering up for hamas. and worse than that, have been relying on hamas protection for the ships, for the cargo. i saw just now, i ms the satterfield at the state department saying that one of the reasons in a envoy from the united states, one of the reasons we are seeing this chaos in gaza is that israel has been targeting the hamas so-called polices if a terror organization can have police but we're securing the convoy. so here you have the international community admitting that until now, the united nations has been really land on hamas a proscribed terrorist organization to secure human monetary and aid. and that's why it's important that we have options like ed >> what's it? because i mean, obviously that's not an ideal situation for the united states and we've talked about this length, but, but it is an undeniable fact. hamas is still
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in gaza. so what is the option for the united states? what's the better way to get that aid in? because right now, what's happening clearly is not working. >> we'll add drops are one way where we can try to circumvent hamas and circumvent ordre by cutting them out of the aid distribution system because we've released audio examples, for example, a phone calls with people in gaza saying we know that on members are stealing aid. we know that it's being diverted to hamas and a lot of the aid that has entered the gaza strip, by the way, yesterday, we had a near record 260 trucks going into the gulf. >> was it before october 7? it was getting and it was hundreds more than that, close to five. >> we have the capacity for >> 500 aid that is now getting in and we have a capacitor and they don't have their homes, they don't have bakeries there in tents. basic law. you mentioned bakeries, >> for example, inside the gaza strip right now, there are 20 operational bakeries they're producing two and-a-half million loaves of bread, pita breads, and roles every single day, there were 102 weeks ago. and thanks to coordination with the israeli army, we have
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doubled the number of operational bakeries inside gaza because it's important that aid reach the people who need it and not the hamas terror regime that has brought such disaster on the people of gaza now after hamas is brought down, i hope that the situation will improve for everyone. >> i think what's clear to everyone is it's not enough aid that's getting into there. not enough bakeries. there's not enough supplies. a lot >> states that want to send more should send more. we can facilitate its entry into yes, i think that's a big question. eylon levy is israeli spokesperson or spokesperson for the israeli government. thank you for joining us here on set. and up next as we continue to follow this, we're also following another breaking story here on cnn. another spy balloon situation appears to be in the making this time it was discovered by fishermen off the coast of alaska are reporting first here on cnn after a quick break >> this situation with wolf blitzer night at six point cnn, liberty mutual customized my car insurance and i saved hundreds that's great. i know i've been telling everyone how
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was possible that a spy balloon is soon going to be in the hands of the fbi after some commercial fishermen found one, they believe off the coast of alaska cnn's katie bo lillis has this reporting and katie, obviously the question here is everyone remembers the last time the spy balloon was shot down in february 2023. it's hard to think that it's been a year since that happened. what do we know about what these fishermen have now apparently discovered? >> well, kaitlan, look at the expense of making a really bad pun. this is the mystery catch of the de, right now. what we know from our sources is that it commercial fishermen found something that they were concerned enough about that they contacted law enforcement about it. they took some pictures, they sent these pictures off to law enforcement. the fbi takes a look at these images and their war read enough that whatever these fishermen found closely resembles enough a potential surveillance balloon similar to the type that china, as we know, sort of famously, the chinese bible in the sort of famously blue of course, and flew over the continental
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2024 lead today and with abortion, obviously that to play a big role in the 2024 election, as we've seen, it do in the most recent ones. former president donald trump is impressed multiple times on where he stands on a potential federal abortion ban. last night, he maybe got closer than he ever has been more and more. >> i'm hearing about 15 weeks and i haven't decided yet also, we got it back to the states where it belongs. and by the way, a lot of states are taking very strong sense is everybody on both sides said it has to be in the states we did a very good thing >> let's talk about that comment there with our panel and s e cupp. i mean, i think that's the very definition of a trial balloon where he's saying i'm hearing about something, but he doesn't actually come out and supportive it. >> well, he's been president before. he's also running for president. he should probably have an idea of where he stands on this and he has been everywhere and nowhere, right? he takes credit for overturning roe v. wade. he has slammed six-week, ten, week 15 week
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abortion bands as unpopular, politically. so i mean, it's about time we know where he stands, but donald trump is not built on principles and convictions. he's built on impulses and so the trial balloon, i think is kind of him seeing where people are today if a change tomorrow, it could change in a month, could change in a year. >> i mean, it's remarkable because he does understand how unpopular politically he does a lot of these bands, army, we've seen that reflected in the polls and many states, michigan, wisconsin. >> but it >> also is something the white house often tries to do is to remind you that it was trump who put the nation in the situation by putting the justices on the court who voted in favor or ruled in favor of overturning roe versus wade, trump doubles down on that. the biden administration should, as you said, remind the public of that. if we look at it just because i live in new york, new york three and the fact that we were talking more about immigration, liz, largely because the republicans can't talk about reproductive rights and especially after what we'll
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use the ruling in alabama, what i would say if we're democrats is attach all the draconian measures to every republican that is it's running throughout the country, nationalize that issue. and i think it's, i think it's winning for not just democrats, but it mobilizes independence. and a lot of republicans in suburban districts. >> yeah, me, let me pop that trial balloon right now. let me do that on this show, we've made history here. look, joe biden is hoping, praying that this election shin, is about abortion rights of 15 week ban is incredibly unpopular nationwide. we just had an ipsos poll about that earlier this week. i think it was something like 56, 57% oppose that idea. so if this election turns and abortion rights, this is where joe biden wants, like donald trump shouldn't be touching this issue that's why you should be toeing the line. he wants to be talking about immigration wants to be talking about the economy. voters trust him on those issues, on abortion, it's one of the rare issues where more voters trust joe biden and it's a really great opportunity for nikki haley and she's taking it. she was just out saying none of these guys know how to talk
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about this issue she means guys, men, but i think she also means specifically republicans and she's been trying out a softer version. she's pro-life, but she has been trying out a softer version software rhetoric, coming to a consensus on this issue. and that's smart because since 1976 when gallup first started polling abortion, abortion attitudes in this country have not changed they have remained fixed. the majority of people have always believed in abortion with some restrictions. >> can i also do >> change. this is something we're biden, obviously wants to talk about that as opposed to immigration, we saw them in the border yesterday. it's a very strong issue for democrats. one issue that, that's not strong for him is the economy. he's got to figure out how to handle both these things in the state of the union that is less than a week from today, we sat down with senator bernie sanders yesterday and he said he doesn't believe president biden is talking about the economy in the right way. this is what he told me what he knew st. louis, say it, make it very clear. he is going to stand with the working class in this country
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around that agenda that works for everybody, not just the people on doing that enough right now, in your view just like i'm a nerd, things that i think can be done. i think you have to say very loudly and clearly when he does, but not quite the strongly as i would like >> my whatever we said on this issue is the metrics are interesting and they're important. but are you really speaking to the economic aspirations of americans, particularly young people? can they buy a house? can they buy a car? can they move out of their parents apartment or home? right. >> if especially when you're dealing with a lot of young voters two are concerned about whether or not they actually can come out and vote or should come out and vote if you really attach attack that, then i think you can continue to energize them. bernie sanders isn't maybe around the same age as joe biden, but a lot of voters didn't think he was old because he was energy around his candidacy on those very issues that touched a lot of voters. think biden could do some teensy bit >> older is 82 but yeah, they're right around the same
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age as far as voters, my age are concern, they're both just old men. look at the end of the day. it's very easy for bernie sanders or any politician who is not in charge of this country to say these things, he should be doing x with messaging, he should be doing why? hi with messaging. but the economy just as something that's in voters minds and what we are seeing is some slight increases in economic consumer confidence and the real question is, are those slight increase is going to be enough, especially as they add up going to the election, that it can turn people's minds on the economy. if not, there's just not in my opinion, all a heck of a lot that joe biden can do because it's just what are you going to just keep on with this rhetoric and hope that it changed people's minds. they feel what they feel. >> one, here's the bind, right? i mean on the left, there's a big push to talk about democracy, which is in peril. i think that's really important. >> you >> have the luxury to talk about democracy when you have a good job, when you live in a nice town, it's not being ravaged by drugs and opioids or immigration problems. when you haven't gotten a raise in five years, when you can't afford groceries, when you're worried about drugs in your town, when
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you're worried about you losing your job. democracy is not on the top of your mind. the economy is, democrats have found a great way to talk about democracy. they have not found a great way to talk about the economy we will see all of these could be themes in the state of the union speech. next week we'll be watching very closely here we get a coordinate outfits then too. i think we should write because this was just, i just want everyone to know this just happened by chance because great minds dress alike as he kept everyone. thank you all. you're just jealous, harry. thank >> get a little bit up next cnn's van jones is going to join us on what he uncovered after you can looked into the politics of his home state of tennessee and the sharp right turn that they've taken united states of scandal with jake tapper. sunday at nine on cnn >> jesse loves playing detective, but the real mystery was your irritated skin. so we switched to tide pods free and gentle. it cleans better and doesn't leave behind irritating residues and it's gentle on her skin, tied free and gentle is epa's safer choice certified?
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voting. and it's also the subject of this week's the whole story with anderson cooper our political commentator van jones wouldn't back to his home state to look at the sharp swing to the right and tennessee politics democrats become republicans, counties that they had gone blue for obama suddenly become red. >> yes, absolutely. yes. 2010 that's the worst year for y'all to get work because then they got they got a chance to redistrict that gave the republicans the power >> to gerrymander everything, correct? that's correct. did they use that power? they use it. do they abuse it? >> abuse it was surgical precision >> tuesday night's results were decidedly republican paradigm shift in our state >> republicans now have a super two-thirds majority in the house and senate >> and in this moment, they start taking increasingly conservative policy changes around all sorts of policy areas. guns, health care, abortion, but especially when it comes to democratic instance
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the tuition's like voting rights and distracting what happens in tennessee is going to happen in nearly any red controlled state after this time period. but tennessee is really leading the charge in many ways. >> and van jones joins me now, van, it's fascinating to look into this, into this turn that tennessee has taken. for when you started to when you finish this, what did you learn about why this happened? >> well, especially powerful for me. i was born and raised in tennessee. i got my start in that building, that capitol building. i was an intern for jim navy in 1989 and so it's still beautiful on the outside, but it's a lot uglier on the inside. now, it mean once the republicans redistricted, so they could get a super majority? pretty they don't have to listen to democrats and they don't. and they just have run over cities like nashville and memphis waits, little blue dots on that red map and taken power away from them. they've made sure they don't have any
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congressional representation. they won't move even with red flag laws that even republicans want. and it is just what happened because when you get one party uncontested control it just go it goes nuts and it was it was really important to meet us to go home and talk to my family and talked to people i'd work with. how does it feel, what's going on. we also talked to grassroots people on the right-wing side and found that they also are frustrated with what's going on. nobody can understand how we got so far away from tennessee. i grew up in where believe it or not, we had people like al gore representing the whole state well, what when you talk to those grassroots people who are on the right and they're frustrated. i mean, what's the basis of their frustration? >> well they feel that they've got local issues that aren't getting handled properly there. they were worried about covid they're worrying about school closures. that's what animated then, but they're not hostile toward working class folks in memphis. they don't mad at them. but when it all gets weaponized up at the top
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somehow their issues don't get handled locally, but everything gets weaponized against those blue cities. and so i think people who watch this, i'm going to be really surprised to learn. well, we just talked about these flyover states and once you pull the cover back, open up the hood, really fascinating dynamics happen, but it is a warning. >> you get >> one party control maybe on either side, and extremism can come in and nobody benefits well, and then also what we've seen also an alabama, we see this as well. there isn't that natural. there's no natural bipartisanship because what its one-party majority rule, they don't feel the need to work with others. they don't have to. >> they're not worried about being >> primaried or anything like that, and they can just enjoy the fact that they're going to be they believe reelected on a permanent basis >> yeah. and it makes it worse for everybody because then he said the only primary you gotta get his further to the right. and so the party at the state level has gone further right. than even the grassroots wants it to be. and nobody can do anything about it because of the gerrymandering is really,
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really fascinating for me. it was really heartbreaking. i grew up in a state, our state house speaker, jim navy, where i worked for was aerobe. we had an era of american democratic party speaker of the house of four decades and nobody ever raised as an issue because it lets get along state and now that's completely van jones. >> i'm so excited that you did this and i can't wait to watch all of this. thank you for joining us to preview it for everyone else who also wants to watch it along with me. you're going to see the feature of this in the new episode of the whole story with anderson cooper that is going to air right here on cnn sunday, 08:00 p.m. eastern and you will be able to watch the entire thing two athletes at the top of their game, lebron james and caitlin clark going for history this weekend as we are bringing in sports legend bob costas to talk to them next you always got your mind on the grain that you do. >> your business bank account
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record-breaking of accomplishment to their already record-breaking careers were bob costas here with us to talk about it, bob, let me start with caitlin clark, my personal favorite because ohio, they're playing ohio state state on sunday. she has a chance to break the all-time scoring record, not just for women, but men and women. and it seems like she's going to potentially hit that on sunday, which is going to be incredible to watch, especially given we've just learned that she is going to be declaring for the wnba draft yes. >> you already holds all the significant women's record she needs just 18 points to surpass pete maravich's total obviously, it's apples to oranges, not just men's game versus women's game, but there was no three-point shot when pete played at lsu, freshmen were an eligible, he played only three years. caitlin clark because played for and many more games, but still if you're talking about total points, it's another amazing achievement for caitlin clark and she will head for the wnba. she's going to be with the indiana fever because they have the number one pick they've been a woeful team, but they had an unborn pick last year
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and got a very good player named aliyah boston. now caitlin clark will join her the rookie pay scale and the wnba is only $78,000, but we wanted to throw any benefits for kaitlan because she already has deals with gatorade and state farm and nike and those national deals will only increase when she goes into the pros and you will not find a more basketball mad state than indiana high school college and pro she's going to be a local and regional star. so it only builds and builds for caitlin clark, her pay cap. >> when she goes into the wnba, it's only $78,000. i mean, obviously deals inside, but she's only hurt the most she can make it 78 grand as a rookie, the top of the pay scale is 250,000 and then players sometimes go overseas, has only a 40 game season from may into september in the wnba. and there are incentives. what they're in the seven-figure areas, it's not nothing big
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compared to what caitlin clark can make off the court, but her salary the first year is only 78 grand. >> that's pretty striking, but let's also talk about what else we're watching this weekend because lebron james, if he scores nine points tomorrow, he can be the first nba player to reach 40,000 career points and also just did age 39 he already holds obviously the all-time record he surpassed kareem abdul-jabbar last season for that. and now he'll go to 40,000. it's utterly remarkable how well he is playing. he first played in the nba at age 18, right out of high school in akron, ohio. now, he'll be 40 he in december and he'll play another season at least beyond this. only recently a couple of days ago, he outscored the clippers and the fourth-quarter, his team came back, lakers came back from 21 down and lebron scored 19 in the fourth quarter of the clippers, 16, he had 34 and that game then the next game against the wizards, 31. so hill double-figures, they
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always had double-figures. so haley, 40,000 tomorrow night against the nuggets at home in los angeles >> yeah. it's just awesome to see. also, given you mentioned that he entered the league at age 18 now we've caitlin clark and to see the respect that he has for her is also just a remarkable moment. you see just how impressed he is by her and he himself. so impressed, yes. >> he's not alone among nba players and former nba players. you know, 30 of the 32 games. and caitlin clark has played this year around women's college basketball, have sold out, and it's going to be a real boost for the wnba in general interest in women's basketball at the professional level when she enters the league awesome. bob costas, great to talk to you about this will be watching closely to both of these games this weekend and for the rest of you will be back with more news in just a moment. >> at morgan stanley old school hard work meets bold new
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this sunday on state of the union here on cnn and homeland security secretary alejandro mayorkas, senate judiciary committee >> chairman, democrat dick durbin, and republican senator markwayne mullin of oklahoma homer, that will air this sunday morning, nine eastern and then again at noon eastern here on cnn. and later that night, you can join jake tapper, a new episode of his united states of scandal. it's this new cnn series that is explored some of the most sensational political scandals of our time. this week is going to focus on eliot spitzer former new york governor, who made a name taking down white-collar criminals. but his time in office was cut short when it was revealed that spitzer, also known as client number nine, had been soliciting sex workers and a prostitution ring. part of the sunday episode, we'll examine his rise to power in a telltale sign of his hubris spitzer was so confident he would become governor. he started staffing his administration years before
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the election one time, spitzer said to me, there's someone i'd like to interview be lieutenant governor, but i wouldn't want to be rejected. now i realize he's talking about me and he was right i didn't want to become senate governor. and at the time, hillary clinton was a junior senator from new york. so i said to spitzer, if hillary clinton becomes president, you pick the new senator. i would be your god and spitzer said something to me at that point. it was very prophetic. stay out of trouble on your my god and all i can say to that was physician kill myself >> maybe you should have taken his own advice there. you can see an all new episode of united states of scandal with jake tapper. that's this sunday night at nine eastern only here on cnn. but before we get to sunday tonight on the soares 09:00 p.m. eastern tonight we'll be talking about these efforts to get aid into gaza. that's tonight. if you ever, ms an episode of the lead, you can listen to the show wherever you get your podcast. of